Thursday, March 23, 2006

Different yous, and other French peculiarities

One of the things in French that I still struggle with is the utilisation of the polite and familar "you". Luckily having learnt Spanish before I was familiar with the general idea: there is one way to say you to a person you know well, like your husband, friends and family for example ( "tu" ) and another way to strangers, your boss, people you don't know very well etc ("vous" pronounced voo). Sounds simple enough right? Wrong!
Where it starts to get difficult is that the word "vous" is also the plural you. So if you're talking to more than one person you have to use vous. Add to that the task of learning all the different conjugations for each verb and it becomes a total mess.
And of course there are the grey areas as always with French. In my French class I was taught that you automatically use "vous" with people you meet for the first time because it is considered very rude to use "tu". Except of course most people under the age of 30 tend to use "tu" automatically, so that really confused me for a while. Also I'm pretty sure that Lucas uses "tu" with his boss, but I don't know his boss well, even though we have been skiing together twice so where does that leave me? In situations like these I just avoid addressing anyone directly until I am sure. Because I tend to be over careful with the use of "vous" to ensure that I'm not offending anyone I have even addressed Lucas as "vous" once or twice! That always gets a good laugh out of whomever we are with at the time.
I am learning that it's important to find out what the custom is depending on the situation. For example at my place of work last year everyone used "tu", from the cleaning staff right up to the General Manager, but one of my friends works in a small office of 4 people where they all use "vous". Visiting with neighbours of my in-laws Lucas pointed out to me that he noticed they used "tu" with him, since they have known him since he was three, but "vous" with me. I hadn't noticed it because when they said "vous" I automatically assumed they meant the plural "vous" (see why this gets confusing?). Luckily I was doing my famous not-addressing-anyone-directly trick, so I avoided being rude (I hope).

Another peculiarity that I struggled with (the application that is) is the two different "yeses". Yep, there are 2 ways to say yes in French. The first which most people are familiar with is "oui" (pronounced wee), but there is a special yes "si", that is used in particular cases, it's used to contradict a negative statement. For example:

T’as mangé tout le gateau? (You ate all the cake? Note the familiar “you” since this is an imaginary conversation with Lucas)

Non! (No !)

Mais si! Je t’ai vu! (yes! I saw you !)


See how that works? (if you speak French you might pick up some other errors in there but my focus is on the yes, no, yes idea so bear with me ok?)
I never got that right until recently, I always used oui to contradict and got those weird looks (I've gotten very used to weird looks the last 2 years), but last week when we had a friend over for dinner I did it totally right to contradict something Lucas said. I can't remember what is was so lets just pretend it was the cake conversation. Since, according to Lucas, I contradict him quite a bit, I may be well on my way to getting this nailed.

4 comments:

Chiara said...

Stumbled accross your blog from 2 Peas and I don't speak french but it is a beautiful language. Maybe someday.

Adrienne " A little dramatic at times" said...

I took TWO french classes, and I was OKAY until we started conjugating verbs...NOPE! LOL

Mad Bull said...

What woman doesn't contradict her man often, oui?

What island are you from? T&T?

Came across you from the webring...

~Caro~ said...

Hi, just got to your blog from the memory safe :) Great blog!!!
Where are you from originally?

I'm a french-canadian, so this post really interested me. It's SO true that there are many things that are so complicated with the french language! Heck, even I get confused with the vous and tu. I hate hate hate being vouvoyée so ALWAYS tell ME *tu*. But I vouvois my inlaws... too late to change that after 13 years LOL. I'll say tu to DH's aunts and uncles though: what the heck?! bwa ha ha!!!

One major difference with living in Quebec versus living in France: we, here, do not use the "si" for oui. I've never heard a french quebecer use that term, but it's one my French friends say all the time.